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Musical group singing called "The Way In."

Click on this image to read about  those who have been caught plagiarizing other people's writings.

This reporter resigned after being caught plagiarizing. Click on the image/PDF link below for the story:

 
Ray Johnston's Plagiarism 

This page represents a classic example of a person plagiarizing another person's writing and getting caught doing it. A writing that was successful in bringing in a large sum of money. Please don't get me wrong, I am not perfect nor do I claim to be perfect. That being said, it should also be clear that I don't send out personal letters targeting large groups of people while asking them for money. And if I did I surely wouldn't send out that letter purporting it to have been written by me when in fact it was written weeks ealier by some other person.

Knowing that a well known Northern California preacher is pleading for money from a large group of people while claiming that this money is needed and then finding out that the entire plea letter is basically copied from another man's "successful" donation plea letter makes this plagiary even more disturbing. 

I even have to wonder if the need for this money was really there or was there more of a need for extra money and Johnston knew a couple of weeks earlier that this "plea for money" ploy had already been very successful for another well known preacher in Southern California? A preacher over 400 miles away. 

Twice in the donation plea letter Johnston makes it known that a "$250,000 miracle" is needed.  Wow, he is good at using psychology with this dollar figure. He's asking for $250,000 but is he hoping for three times this amount?  After all, Warren was pleading for $900,000 and saw donations of nearly $2.5 million. 

I can't speak for my dad (he caught over 8000 thieves in his life), but of the hundreds of thieves I have caught in my life I can't imagine any of them getting involved in this kind of dishonesty.  This is way beyond their scope of dishonesty. In fact, most of the thieves I caught stealing eventually apologized.  How about an apology from Johnston for his dishonesty or is he just another Chuck Collings who harbors narcism in his character too?  The mere fact his plagiary was caught by a son of Charles Nordby makes an apology from Johnston even less likely.  Johnston is also aware of the fact that the news media isn't going to publicize his dishonesty because it was I who caught him.   

Just Johnston plagiarizing a donation plea letter lets me know he could easily wear Collings' shoes very comfortably!  If acts of dishonesty were to be awarded with an "oscar" annually, Johnston in my opinion would have received one, for sure, with his award-winning-performance in this area. 


Below are the two letters in question.  If you don't want to be bothered by all of the animation and fun below, just click on the first two images below to read Rick Warren's December 30th letter and Ray Johnston's January 12th plagiarized letter.  Just one (1) additional note:

The Bayside Church was notified of Johnston's plagiary probably before Johnston received the first dime in his request for money. In fact, Johnston sent his email letter on the evening of January 12th and it was forwarded to me that evening. I didn't really look at the email until the morning of January 13th. Within minutes after reading Johnston's donation plea letter I was on the Saddleback Church website and Warren's "plea for money" letter was still there and I read it....bingo

   I wonder if the act of plagiarism by any other person over the last
100,000 years has ever been caught and exposed quicker than this? 
Make that the last 100,000 years and four (4) months-just to cover my bases.

      
Actually-if you click on the "Pastor Ray" image on the right, it has both letters in the PDF

Below represents part of Johnston's donation plea letter where he mentions "2 weeks"-

It appears to me that Johnston tried to plan out his plagiarism very strategically.

And all of the great stuff below, that Johnston is touting in his letter, you have to wonder if this information is really even accurate(?)  Maybe Johnston should prove all that he claims Bayside Church is supposedly doing and giving to the community. 

What I know he doesn't have to prove is the fact that he likes to pat himself on the back just like a lot of other preachers pastoring a church.  I pat myself on the back too----only because nobody pats me on the back.  Does Johnston get patted on the back by the members of Bayside when he leaves the men's restroom at the church?  I think Jesus targeted people like Johnston in some of his parables. 

Click on this image to read the personal letter written by Ray Johnston.  Actually, it would be fair to say that Johnston's personal letter was really a personal letter written by Pastor Rick Warren first!Here in the paragraph Johnston talks about the 'problem.' Johnston knows he is plagiarizing Warren's letter and that is a 'problem' in God's eyes. God wants to expose this phony.
In these paragraphes Johnston is going to butter-up the members- just like Warren did in his December 30th letter.
In these paragraphs, Johnston wants to continue on with righteous acts of kindness while at the same time embarrass God with his deceit.
While Johnston lays out the numbers of those who have been assisted, this hyprocrite ignored Jack Nordby in the five letters Jack sent to him.  Johnston needs a lot of counseling, onezone, recovery, healing and support.
Johnston needs a new relationship with Jesus and he also needs to cut all ties with his friendship with the devil.
Now Johnston is really laying out the honey. If Johnston is being deceitful in plagiarizing Rick Warren's letter, how can anybody trust the figures he laying out in his letter?
Here it is in this paragraph, 'we need a $250,000 miracle.'  Wow, how impactive is that?  Johnston knew a good letter when he read Warren's December 30th letter. Great psychology and a great ploy.
Great ploy.  'You are the most generous church, always come through,' this guy makes me sick to my stomach because when he signs off with 'Ray' he has delivered the final slap to God's face with this unethical nonsense in which he has shown the gullible members of Bayside.

 

My email to Bayside Church 

Below is another email I sent to Bayside Church/Members later that evening. 

I sent another email to Bayside and others on this same day.  It was only a couple of hours later Ray Johnston sent out his 'Haiti' donation plea. Johnston needed to send out 'apology' pleas instead.


My opinion 

Rick Warren's letter 


Here's the December 30th Rick Warren letter. Honorable and ethical Ray Johnston plagiarized it and sent it to Bayside members making his letter appear as his own thoughts and writings.  Just disgusting and all done to play on the emotions of the members and bring in a lot of money.









Below is the article showing how successful Warren's plea for money has been.  If homeless people soliciting money at street intersections could send letters like this to car drivers they might be living in the same neighborhood where Johnston lives in Granite Bay, CA.

On January 3, 2010, the news media is making it known of Warren's successful donation plea from his December 30, 2009 letter.

Above is a message Ray Johnston gave at the Bayside Church on Sunday, January 10, 2010.  This was two days before he willfully sent out a plagiarized letter to the members via email.  If you watch this video you will see that Johnston had no problem giving proper attribution to those he was quoting in his message.   So why didn't he give Rick Warren proper attribution in his January 12th letter while pleading for money?

Above is a video Bayside Church allows others to place on their website.  What you see here is Ray Johnston speaking in front of the members of Bayside Church, on January 17,  five days after being informed of plagiarizing Rick Warren's donation plea letter and this dishonest man acts like nothing has happened and apparently has no intention of apologizing to the members.  What an arrogant man slapping God in the face. Listen to his message and hear for yourself how money is a big thing to this man.

What you see below is the gathering that took place at the end of January with the so called "experts"-none of them seem to have the expertise in repentance.  Listen to these guys talk.  It just makes you sick to your stomach watching them pat themselves on the back. They all know they have created their own kingdoms on this earth.

Do you really believe any of the four men above daily worship a man who didn't wear nice clothes, didn't own a home, didn't have a big bank account and wasn't a respecter of persons? 
Johnston's plagiarized letter without the animation 

 

Below is how Ray Johnston plagiarized letter would look complete and without the "cross" animation:



 
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